<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">How is the electron club set up? Does it have a constitution and so on? If it does then it could try for a grant from the Anderston City ward area committtee. The necessary forms are at <A href="http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/YourCouncil/Council_Committees/Committees/AreaCommittees/applicationformsandguidance.htm">http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/YourCouncil/Council_Committees/Committees/AreaCommittees/applicationformsandguidance.htm</A><BR><BR>
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<DIV><STRONG><EM></EM></STRONG> </DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 27/4/09, Simon Yuill <I><simon@lipparosa.org></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Simon Yuill <simon@lipparosa.org><BR>Subject: Re: [ELECTRON] broadband costs<BR>To: "Discussion list for the Electron Club" <members@electronclub.org><BR>Date: Monday, 27 April, 2009, 10:02 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Hi Paula,
Thanks! That's a good start. It gives us £100 towards the 2 year total,
of which a potential £50 could go towards the basic startup cost.
I'd be willing to match that, which would give us a starting amount of
£200 towards the 2 year cost.
best wishes
Si
Document wrote:
> Sounds good to me. Document could potentially give something once we
> hear of funding say £50 pa
>
> Paula
>
> On 27/04/2009, Simon Yuill <simon@lipparosa.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have spoken with the the Phone Co-op to get details on what would
be
>> the best broadband package for us.
>>
>> The one that looks best value is one for small businesses they offer
>> called 'Business Saver 10':
>>
>> http://www.thephone.coop/business/soho.html
>>
>> Costs are:
>>
>> £19 + VAT a month for line rental and broadband
>> £99 + VAT for line installation
>> £46.59 + VAT for a ZyXel 660H 4 Port Ethernet Router/Hub,
preconfigured
>> with firewall (this is optional, if we can provide our own ADSL2+
>> modem-router)
>> no setup fee
>>
>> Phone calls are charged separately, depending on usage. The call
charges
>> are:
>>
>> 1.98p per minute - peak local
>> 1.99p per minute - peak national
>> 0.85p per minute - offpeak local
>> 1.3p per minute - offpeak national
>> 1.26p per minute - weekend national
>> 11p per minute - peak to all mobile networks
>> 8.5p per minute - offpeak to all mobile networks
>>
>> We have to commit to a 12 month initial contract. We can pay either
in
>> monthly installments by direct debit or in a lump sum in advance.
>>
>> Although the total monthly usage is much lower than the cheapest
>> domestic package (Anytime Saver gives 40MB compared to the 10GB for
the
>> business package), the upload speed for business customers is much
>> higher than for home users. Upload speed for business is 1024kbps
>> compared to 448Kbps for home users.
>>
>> 10GB may not sound much but provided we are not downloading loads of
>> video content it's quite a lot. There is a calculator here to
help
>> estimate how much would be used:
>>
>>
http://www.thephone.coop/residential/broadband/capacity-calculator.html
>>
>> Assuming in one month that people send 2,000 standard emails, 1,000
with
>> images, spend 3 hours day surfing, watch 200 video clips, download 10
>> pieces of software and make 2 big downloads, then that all comes to:
>> 5.09 GB, well within the 10GB limit.
>>
>>
>> The cost for the first year would be:
>>
>> line installation: £99.00
>> ADSL modem £46.59
>> 1 year's broadband £228.00
>> total (exc VAT): £373.59
>>
>> VAT at 17.5%: £65.38
>> total (inc VAT): £438.97
>>
>>
>> If we are going to raise funds for this, it might be sensible to try
and
>> raise enough to cover 2 years broadband usage, which would add an
>> additional £267.90 (£228.00 + VAT). So the total for setup and 2
years
>> broadband would be:
>>
>> 2 years (inc VAT): £706.87
>>
>> I had a chat with Francis McKee, the director of CCA about this, and
>> asked if they would be willing to chip in if we shared the broadband
>> with them. This would be only for use in the Artist's Flat and
the
>> gallery spaces, not part of the public wifi access or CCA office
usage.
>> The Artist's Flat and gallery are two areas where the CCA
sometimes need
>> a more specialised internet access for artist doing web-based work
(such
>> as Martine Crispo who some of you might have met last year). Usage
from
>> these two sources would vary depending on what kind of artists and
>> exhibitions they had in and is unlikely to be constant throughout the
>> year. Francis has said that they would be interested in contributing
-
>> although final decision does not rest with him. Now that I have some
>> concrete costs I will get back in touch and see what they say.
>>
>> In terms of making this happen at a practical level we have
potentially
>> 3 sources of funding this:
>>
>> - voluntary donations from groups and individuals currently
using the
>> space who want to make use of the broadband
>> - a possible contribution from the CCA
>> - money raised from fund-raising event
>>
>> Now that we have some concrete figures it would be good to hear from
>> those who would be up for donating so we can get a sense of how much
we
>> have there.
>>
>> Also, in terms of getting it off the ground sooner rather than later
one
>> way to approach it might be to pull together enough for the basic
>> install plus 3 months broadband, this would be: £238.04. Then raise
the
>> rest from CCA and the fund-raising event.
>>
>> So what kind of fund-raising event? Well, we had a meeting last week
and
>> I think Dan is going to get back to the list about that.
>>
>>
>> To get things started however, it would be good to get some feedback
>> from those interested in us having broadband.
>>
>>
>> best wishes
>> Si
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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