Hi Green Map could contribute £25.<br><br>Cheers Hannah <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:58 PM, ben dembroski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ben@dembroski.net">ben@dembroski.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I can do 20... and an ASDL wireless router.<br>
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2009/4/27 Bob <<a href="mailto:bob@citystrolls.com">bob@citystrolls.com</a>>:<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">> My £30 still stands. B<br>
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> Simon Yuill wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Paula,<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks! That's a good start. It gives us £100 towards the 2 year total,<br>
>> of which a potential £50 could go towards the basic startup cost.<br>
>><br>
>> I'd be willing to match that, which would give us a starting amount of<br>
>> £200 towards the 2 year cost.<br>
>><br>
>> best wishes<br>
>> Si<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Document wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Sounds good to me. Document could potentially give something once we<br>
>>> hear of funding say £50 pa<br>
>>><br>
>>> Paula<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 27/04/2009, Simon Yuill <<a href="mailto:simon@lipparosa.org">simon@lipparosa.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I have spoken with the the Phone Co-op to get details on what would be<br>
>>>> the best broadband package for us.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The one that looks best value is one for small businesses they offer<br>
>>>> called 'Business Saver 10':<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="http://www.thephone.coop/business/soho.html" target="_blank">http://www.thephone.coop/business/soho.html</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Costs are:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> £19 + VAT a month for line rental and broadband<br>
>>>> £99 + VAT for line installation<br>
>>>> £46.59 + VAT for a ZyXel 660H 4 Port Ethernet Router/Hub,<br>
>>>> preconfigured<br>
>>>> with firewall (this is optional, if we can provide our own ADSL2+<br>
>>>> modem-router)<br>
>>>> no setup fee<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Phone calls are charged separately, depending on usage. The call<br>
>>>> charges<br>
>>>> are:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 1.98p per minute - peak local<br>
>>>> 1.99p per minute - peak national<br>
>>>> 0.85p per minute - offpeak local<br>
>>>> 1.3p per minute - offpeak national<br>
>>>> 1.26p per minute - weekend national<br>
>>>> 11p per minute - peak to all mobile networks<br>
>>>> 8.5p per minute - offpeak to all mobile networks<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> We have to commit to a 12 month initial contract. We can pay either in<br>
>>>> monthly installments by direct debit or in a lump sum in advance.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Although the total monthly usage is much lower than the cheapest<br>
>>>> domestic package (Anytime Saver gives 40MB compared to the 10GB for the<br>
>>>> business package), the upload speed for business customers is much<br>
>>>> higher than for home users. Upload speed for business is 1024kbps<br>
>>>> compared to 448Kbps for home users.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 10GB may not sound much but provided we are not downloading loads of<br>
>>>> video content it's quite a lot. There is a calculator here to help<br>
>>>> estimate how much would be used:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="http://www.thephone.coop/residential/broadband/capacity-calculator.html" target="_blank">http://www.thephone.coop/residential/broadband/capacity-calculator.html</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Assuming in one month that people send 2,000 standard emails, 1,000<br>
>>>> with<br>
>>>> images, spend 3 hours day surfing, watch 200 video clips, download 10<br>
>>>> pieces of software and make 2 big downloads, then that all comes to:<br>
>>>> 5.09 GB, well within the 10GB limit.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The cost for the first year would be:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> line installation: £99.00<br>
>>>> ADSL modem £46.59<br>
>>>> 1 year's broadband £228.00<br>
>>>> total (exc VAT): £373.59<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> VAT at 17.5%: £65.38<br>
>>>> total (inc VAT): £438.97<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> If we are going to raise funds for this, it might be sensible to try<br>
>>>> and<br>
>>>> raise enough to cover 2 years broadband usage, which would add an<br>
>>>> additional £267.90 (£228.00 + VAT). So the total for setup and 2 years<br>
>>>> broadband would be:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2 years (inc VAT): £706.87<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I had a chat with Francis McKee, the director of CCA about this, and<br>
>>>> asked if they would be willing to chip in if we shared the broadband<br>
>>>> with them. This would be only for use in the Artist's Flat and the<br>
>>>> gallery spaces, not part of the public wifi access or CCA office usage.<br>
>>>> The Artist's Flat and gallery are two areas where the CCA sometimes<br>
>>>> need<br>
>>>> a more specialised internet access for artist doing web-based work<br>
>>>> (such<br>
>>>> as Martine Crispo who some of you might have met last year). Usage from<br>
>>>> these two sources would vary depending on what kind of artists and<br>
>>>> exhibitions they had in and is unlikely to be constant throughout the<br>
>>>> year. Francis has said that they would be interested in contributing -<br>
>>>> although final decision does not rest with him. Now that I have some<br>
>>>> concrete costs I will get back in touch and see what they say.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> In terms of making this happen at a practical level we have potentially<br>
>>>> 3 sources of funding this:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> - voluntary donations from groups and individuals currently using<br>
>>>> the<br>
>>>> space who want to make use of the broadband<br>
>>>> - a possible contribution from the CCA<br>
>>>> - money raised from fund-raising event<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Now that we have some concrete figures it would be good to hear from<br>
>>>> those who would be up for donating so we can get a sense of how much we<br>
>>>> have there.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Also, in terms of getting it off the ground sooner rather than later<br>
>>>> one<br>
>>>> way to approach it might be to pull together enough for the basic<br>
>>>> install plus 3 months broadband, this would be: £238.04. Then raise the<br>
>>>> rest from CCA and the fund-raising event.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> So what kind of fund-raising event? Well, we had a meeting last week<br>
>>>> and<br>
>>>> I think Dan is going to get back to the list about that.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> To get things started however, it would be good to get some feedback<br>
>>>> from those interested in us having broadband.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> best wishes<br>
>>>> Si<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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