Thank you Andy<div><br></div><div>the link to the lecture is good</div><div><br></div><div>I may be able to forward to the list a discussion I am having offlist with a law practitioner</div><div>since I do not have time to duplicate my arguments (may srtip off his identity)</div>
<div><br></div><div>I do not feel the need to protect Bacamp name other than 'in principle' at this moment</div><div>(as prominently stated in the subject line), and at this stage I agree with you that </div><div>
I/the public would be the best 'advocate' in this case</div><div><br></div><div>But do consider it an interesting case to raise, if necessary set a precedent,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>
cheers</div><div><br></div><div>P</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Andrew Back <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andy@smokebelch.org">andy@smokebelch.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">On (09:58 13/06/10), Paola Di Maio wrote:<br>
> One more v quick thing, for the record only:<br>
><br>
><br>
> by suggesting a lawyer i was not thinking 'litigation', but should the<br>
> 'culture' message not<br>
> get anywhere, lawyers tend to be able to find the right arguments (in this<br>
> case the de facto trademark argument)<br>
<br>
</div>In my experience, you are extremely fortunate if you can find a lawyer that<br>
is willing to take on your cause unless it is precisely their specific area<br>
of law and you are a paying client. Even when lawyer friends have offered<br>
advice - e.g. on dealing with a landlord that has decided they are entitled<br>
to keep a deposit because it looks like someone may have actually lived in<br>
their property - it has been under the condition that their name is kept out<br>
of the matter.<br>
<br>
I'm sure there will be a relevant code of practice etc.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> I agree there are too few decent lawyers around (and one of the reasons why<br>
> I will continue to study jurisprudence, to defend<br>
> myself from bad /would be lawyers all around the world)<br>
<br>
</div>You need to find a lawyer that is passionate about Barcamps, or maybe even<br>
just open source, creative commons or open data etc. I.e. someone who is<br>
more likely to be attuned to the cause.<br>
<br>
FWIW, I reckon you'd have a hard time defending Barcamp when its loosely<br>
defined and not registered, unless you, say, got the originators and some<br>
interested legal types behind the cause. Of course, IANAL.<br>
<br>
If you are determined to see that Barcamp is afforded some protection, I'd<br>
recommend heading along to the SCL Scotland Annual Lecture in Edinburgh at<br>
the end of the month:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.scl.org/site.aspx?i=ev16408" target="_blank">http://www.scl.org/site.aspx?i=ev16408</a><br>
<br>
In fact I'd recommend anyone interested in F/OSS attends.<br>
<br>
Not only would you get the chance to hear an inspirational address from non<br>
other than Eben Moglen, but there might be an opportunity to solicit casual<br>
opinions from a legal expert or two. I'd certainly imagine most, if not all,<br>
of Scotland's free software supporting legal profession to be in attendance.<br>
It goes without saying, of course, that tact would be required, and<br>
appearing to have gatecrashed such an event purely for the purposes of a bit<br>
of free legal advice on your pet cause, would likely not go down very well.<br>
Fortunately, protecting the brand value created by grassroots Internet-based<br>
communities, is clearly something that should concern free software advocates.<br>
However, it must be noted that not all attendees may be free software<br>
advocates, and some may simply be there to top up their CPD hours, or<br>
possibly even be detractors who instead favour things like software patents.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
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