<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I think Bob knows I agree with him and have been trying to move the Common Good policy onto a point where the money can be used for a variety of things. On the other hand, this nudges my memory that I must do some prodding as to the management of the existing CGF properties.<BR><BR>
<DIV>Regards <BR><STRONG>Nina Baker</STRONG> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#407f00>Failing to plan = Planning to fail<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 17/8/10, Bob <I><bob@citystrolls.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Bob <bob@citystrolls.com><BR>Subject: Re: [ELECTRON] making use of public spaces in Scotlad<BR>To: "Discussion list for the Electron Club" <members@electronclub.org><BR>Date: Tuesday, 17 August, 2010, 14:25<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>Hi P. Common Good?<BR><BR>Sorta thing the common good could and should be used for<BR><A href="http://www.inthecommongood.org/" target=_blank>http://www.inthecommongood.org/</A><BR><BR>There is tons of space around, unfortunately it is being sold from under <BR>our noses. Two problems with the common good is. 1. the lack of awareness <BR>that it exists and 2. The lack of interest in its use as an organising tool <BR>in creating "true" public institutions for the uses that you are <BR>describing. Have a look B.<BR><BR><BR><BR>On 17/08/2010 13:22, Paola Di Maio wrote:<BR>> Thanks Ben<BR>><BR>> Useful info as an example of social enterprise, and probably material for a<BR>> case study<BR>><BR>> the model is fantastic and precisely what I d like to see more of,<BR>> especially when it comes to<BR>> organisations that advertise themselves as 'social enterprises'<BR>><BR>> Contributing
at least some organisational resources go common use should be<BR>> a condition of all social enterprises<BR>> or at least, should be brownie points for any publicly funded projects imho<BR>><BR>> Tons of public spaces funded by public money in Edinburgh, how come nobody<BR>> is offering a room for<BR>> people to use in self managed, open way?<BR>><BR>> I heard someone is auditing all the underused space and maybe we can make a<BR>> case for better administration of the same at some point<BR>><BR>> Of course well done to everyone for managing the use of the CCA open space<BR>> so creatively and diligently<BR>><BR>> Thanks for that<BR>><BR>> let us se if we can replicate it elsewhere<BR>><BR>> PDM<BR>><BR>><BR>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Benjamin Dembroski<<A href="http://uk.mc866.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ben@dembroski.net"
ymailto="mailto:ben@dembroski.net">ben@dembroski.net</A>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>> Hi All,<BR>>><BR>>> I think the Electron Club is in a pretty unusual (and lucky) situation.<BR>>><BR>>> Like Bob said, A few years ago the CCA approached a group of<BR>>> like-minded people to see if we were interested in using a the small<BR>>> space in the corner of the CCA. The jist of it was: They gave us use<BR>>> of the space, electrics, internet connection, some furniture, and some<BR>>> older computers to use. We could do pretty much anything we wanted,<BR>>> provided that a) it wasn't illegal and, b) was in some way publicly<BR>>> available.<BR>>><BR>>> The rest was determined by the group. We made up a few more rules<BR>>> that about how the organisation would work, what it was for, and what<BR>>> kinds of activities were a no-no. That was it.
The Electron Club was<BR>>> born!<BR>>><BR>>> I think the only reason the CCA can justify donating the space to us&<BR>>> losing the rental income for the office space is that the EC hosts<BR>>> regular, free events that could be considered "Community Outreach".<BR>>> (Or whatever you want to call it.) So, in exchange for a the loss of a<BR>>> little rental income, the CCA gets a gaggle of motivated volunteers<BR>>> that do all sorts of interesting things for free that the CCA can lay<BR>>> claim to supporting. It can only help their applications for funding,<BR>>> and support. That's why it's so important to keep the room full and<BR>>> busy as much as possible.<BR>>><BR>>> Use it or lose it, so the saying goes.<BR>>><BR>>> I hope that sheds a little light on the conditions the EC operates under.<BR>>><BR>>> --<BR>>>
Ben D.<BR>>><BR>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Bob<<A href="http://uk.mc866.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bob@citystrolls.com" ymailto="mailto:bob@citystrolls.com">bob@citystrolls.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>>> Sounds like a good plan supporting groups already established. The<BR>>> electron<BR>>>> doesn't cost anything and was given over to artists and folk Si et al<BR>>>> working in IT, but there is no restrictions in what the space can be used<BR>>>> for so long as it ain't illegal. Be hard pushed to find a situation like<BR>>>> that in Edin, or anywhere else for that matter:). Good luck in your<BR>>> search.<BR>>>> Bob<BR>>>><BR>>>> On 17/08/2010 11:59, chris h wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<BR>>>>> Hash: SHA1<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Paola Di Maio
wrote:<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Can someone provide some background as to what kind of deal does the<BR>>>>>> Electron Club enter into with CCA, and any suggestions of where to look<BR>>>>>> for something similar in Edinburgh?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> The Autonomous Centre of Edinburgh has space and is under-utilised most<BR>>> of<BR>>>>> the week. There's an occasional tech-night event there and people there<BR>>>>> would be likely to be interested in carrying something like that<BR>>> forward.<BR>>>>> Probably some tidying up required.<BR>>>>> www.autonomous.org.uk<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>> - --<BR>>>>> chris h<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> The strange characters below this message are a digital signature.<BR>>>>> <A href="http://www.gnupg.org/"
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