Hi Martin<div><br></div><div>I am not sure what has changed, but when I asked if I could use the club space for a meeting/event, I was given two conditions:</div><div>- must be open/public (dont remember if this was desirable or mandatory)</div>
<div>- I should become a member and join the mailing list</div><div><br></div><div>Not sure if these 'rules' were written or not, but they seemed straight and fair enough ,</div><div><br></div><div>just to let you know</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>P</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Martin McGrath <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mcgrath.martin@gmail.com">mcgrath.martin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I can't find any note of a rule within the EC documentation regarding a<br>
requirement to keep up with discussions, I suspect because it would be<br>
almost impossible to ensure people actually did so. There are already rules<br>
which people either stretch or ignore. People can attend events in the<br>
space without actually becoming a member.<br>
<br>
As I said, notes on the board should be accompanied by a message on the<br>
list.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Martin<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
On 30 October 2011 11:06, Paola Di Maio <<a href="mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com">paola.dimaio@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Surely the board is a great idea, as well as dating the<br>
> posts, and deleting them from the board when they are no longer relevant.<br>
><br>
> but in some communities being on the mailing list. reading the posts and<br>
> acknowledging and keeping up with the discussions is a community<br>
> requirement, especially when the mailing list is the only 'official'<br>
> record of communication, discussions, decisions.<br>
><br>
> The board can be wiped - either by accident or deliberatelly - would that<br>
> mean there was no message on it? A parallel note on the list will be on the<br>
> record.<br>
><br>
> Perhaps active EC members should agree, where possible, at a minimum to<br>
> read posts with a [admin] label or something<br>
><br>
> Finding ways of making thigs worse is all part of developing self<br>
> governance process :-)<br>
><br>
> P<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:38 AM, M.Hersh <<a href="mailto:m.hersh@elec.gla.ac.uk">m.hersh@elec.gla.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Could I add the suggestion that people date messages on the dry wipe<br>
> > board, so it is clear which ones are still relevant.<br>
> > Marion<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Martin McGrath wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> I'm a little jet lagged and catching up on email at the moment.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Communications will always be a problem. We've no way of ensuring that<br>
> >> people read each post on a list/forum/twitter or anything else, and on<br>
> >> occasion people just ignore what they've been told directly, for<br>
> whatever<br>
> >> reason.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I propose we use a dry wipe board in the room to make people aware of<br>
> >> situations such as the one under discussion in this thread. I'll pop up<br>
> to<br>
> >> the room this week to check if there's already a board there, if not<br>
> I'll<br>
> >> get one and a couple of pens.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Obviously this method is also susceptible to the same problems mentioned<br>
> >> above, but it's something that is in the room, and doesn't require<br>
> someone<br>
> >> to read the posts on the list if they haven't already done so. The board<br>
> >> could simply be used to make people aware of what's going on.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I'm not suggesting that the board on it's own is a solution, messages to<br>
> >> the<br>
> >> list are still a good idea, but for those who don't follow the list or<br>
> >> have<br>
> >> forgotten a dry wipe board in the room seems like a sensible option.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Again, thanks to everyone for all their hard work cataloguing the kit<br>
> >> and organising it. Their work is for the good of the space. For what<br>
> it's<br>
> >> worth kit was labelled with raffle tickets, and collected in piles. It's<br>
> >> not<br>
> >> a huge room and the kit in question was taking up a relativity large<br>
> >> percentage of this area, hence why people are trying remedy the<br>
> situation.<br>
> >> However if people hadn't read or forgotten about the announcement made<br>
> on<br>
> >> the list, I can see how this may be confusing.<br>
> >><br>
> >> In summary, if we can agree on maintaining the board in the room, which<br>
> I<br>
> >> don't think would take a lot of time or effort to manage, people using<br>
> the<br>
> >> space can quickly make themselves aware of any issues.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thanks<br>
> >><br>
> >> Martin<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> On 29 October 2011 09:17, Gordon JC Pearce <<a href="mailto:gordonjcp@gjcp.net">gordonjcp@gjcp.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>> On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 09:11:22 +0100<br>
> >>> Paola Di Maio <<a href="mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com">paola.dimaio@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>>> As far as I remember Bob has been around since the beginning and has<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>> greatly<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>>> contributed to the existence of EC, and although he may not always be<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>> right,<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>>> he has always work to ensure EC is there for everybody, and we should<br>
> be<br>
> >>>> thankful for that<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>> And don't forget that (as far as I recall) Bob built the shelves and<br>
> >>> yellow<br>
> >>> table, without which the space was totally unmanageable.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On the complaining side, would whoever helped themselves to the big<br>
> long<br>
> >>> extension lead for the table please bring it back? Or, if it's tucked<br>
> >>> away<br>
> >>> somewhere, please reveal its secret location.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> --<br>
> >>> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ <<a href="mailto:gordonjcp@gjcp.net">gordonjcp@gjcp.net</a>><br>
> >>><br>
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