<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Thank you Ben, let's hope that is the end of the matter, time and place and respect for others. John.<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR><BR style="RIGHT: auto" class=yui-cursor></SPAN></div>
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<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=hr readonly="true" contenteditable="false"></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Benjamin Dembroski <ben@dembroski.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Discussion list for the Electron Club <members@electronclub.org><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, 9 November 2011, 22:59<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [ELECTRON] [SPAM?] Re: pillows and videos<BR></FONT><BR>Citations are kind of besides the point.<BR><BR>The point being, there are people who subscribe to this list that might find references (even in jest) to porn and the associated objectification of women offensive or
at the very least, a bit off-putting.<BR><BR>This seems like it could be a reasonable response to the original joke. Others might find it funny -- also reasonable.<BR><BR>This list is not an appropriate forum for jokes about sex, porn or anything else related to the subject. The inappropriateness of the joke is due to the context of where it was delivered. (There very well may be kids on this list too) So I'd suggest that if you wouldn't be comfortable making the joke to 10 year old girl, you shouldn't be making it on this list.<BR><BR>Save it for when you're in a room with other people who share your sensibilities on the matter.<BR><BR>It's just a matter of basic respect for fellow EC members.<BR><BR>--<BR>Ben<BR><BR>On 9 Nov 2011, at 22:30, Kyle Gordon wrote:<BR><BR>> [citation required]<BR>> <BR>> On 09/11/11 22:26, m.hersh wrote:<BR>>> It is important the Electron Club is a safe and welcoming space for<BR>>> everyone
- women and girls still participate less in technology than men<BR>>> and boys do and, amongst other things, EC should be contributing to<BR>>> attracting them into technology. There are links between porn and<BR>>> (sexual) violence against women and the levels of violence against women<BR>>> are shockingly high. So no, the so-called 'joke' is not funny.<BR>>> Marion<BR>>> <BR>>> On 09/11/2011 22:22, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:<BR>>>> On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:19:16 +0000<BR>>>> Clive Mitchell<<A href="mailto:bigclive1@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:bigclive1@gmail.com">bigclive1@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>>> <BR>>>>> Or say inappropriate things like "I'm glad they didn't find the mattress."<BR>>>>> <BR>>>> I thought the joke was quite funny, it was the response I found offensive.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Mailman seems to be having a
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