<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi,<div><br></div><div>Almost all Document materials removed - some cushions and brochures still there will get next week.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Paula</div><div><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Paula Larkin</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Coordinator </div><div style="mar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is_the_electron_club">http://www.electronclub.org/doku.php?id=what_is_the_electron_club</a><br><br>I think there is a fine line here.  One the one hand, I don't think anyone would suggest that blantanly discriminatory or hateful activities should be tolerated. On the other hand, I'd suggest that a little offence and discomfort is a healthy thing from time to time.  It's just part of having an environment that fosters debate and discussion.<br><br>The EC being as open as it is means there will always be differring opinions and attitudes about almost everything.  If anyone wants to hang out in place where everyone thinks the same way and your statements will go unchallanged, the EC probably isn't it.  On the other hand, if you want to be part of a community where you can enter into a wider discourse on technology and how it's used, you certainly are in the right place.<br><br>--<br>Ben<br><br>On 10 Nov 2011, at 12:34, m.hersh <m.hersh@elec.gla.ac.uk> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">My question about whether or not this was a joke was a genuine request<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">for information.  I nearly sent an email saying that I thought this was<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">an inappropriate use of the Electron Club.  Then it occurred to me that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">this could be a 'joke', so I thought I should check it.  However, this<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">does raise the issue of what uses are and are not appropriate.  While I<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">do think that the wide range of uses we have a present is a strenght of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the club, I think we do not to be careful with uses which could make<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">some groups of people feel uncomfortable.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Marion<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 10/11/2011 10:55, Alice wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 10, 2011 7:27 AM, "Gordon JC Pearce" <gordonjcp@gjcp.net> wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">[snip]<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I don't want to place myself in a situation where I have to deal with<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">people who may become angry and abusive because I accidentally poke their<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">delicate sensibilities, and I don't want to have to walk on eggshells lest<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I upset the Vegan Christian Lesbian Nicaraguan Amputees Against Whaling<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">movement.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I wasn't that bothered by the "joke" but then I was a programmer for 4<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">years a decade ago so had to become desensitised to objectification of<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">women to fit into the very male environment of back then.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I am very bothered though by the responses to Marion saying she found it<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">offensive, especially  marginalising feminism like this.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">You'll get my backing when you stop discriminating against men.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Where was there any discrimination against men?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Do you think that the Electron club is somewhere that it is more likely<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">males or females might feel isolated and uncomfortable due to their sex?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">How can we create a space where nobody feels less able to participate due<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">to sex, race or class?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockqu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