<div dir="ltr"><div>Can someone tell me what IDE's are installed on the PCs in the club room.<br></div>So i can create relevant example<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 April 2013 13:08, DAVID BALL <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave.ball2@virgin.net" target="_blank">dave.ball2@virgin.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>thanks john, what time is suitable for those interested. as i said I'm off this Monday so was wondering if we could have a couple of hours then. i did notice that the room is booked already at 7-9 so i was thinking perhaps before that if it was suitable to people starting whenever.<br>
</div><div>i was planning of running it from the view point that no one has any experience at all. and i'm happy to cover both PHP and a C language if that is useful. i know it can seem quite daunting to begin with but my plan is to work through some simple examples. getting you used to the basic principal, getting you to tackle some simple problems and building on the knowledge and previous work to help you improve your understanding.<br>
</div><div>so in the first session i would think the we should be able to cover data types, variables, functions, classes, procedures, objects, libraries, and then use them to look at creating a very simple text based dice game.<br>
</div><div>we could then over time look at how we would expand this simple game. i find its always good to set a problem and see what issue arise and then tackle the issue and use any issues people have in the wrap up of the lesson so everyone can benefit from the improved understanding resolving the issue has given.<br>
</div>regards<br>dave<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 April 2013 12:35, JOHN COUZIN <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:john.c.at95@btinternet.com" target="_blank">john.c.at95@btinternet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
Bob and I were the ones who suggested some sort of course in very basic coding, and I admit that my knowledge in this field is ziltch. The more I read the flowing emails, the more confused I get. What I personally was looking for was some very basic knowledge in coding that would help we further develop my wordpress site and my mediawiki site. What that knowledge would be I'm not at all sure. so for me it would be the very basics. I would leave it up to the "teacher" to lay out the course along the lines that he thinks are best suit to that purpose, and we could concentrate on setting a time. John<br>
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From: DAVID BALL <<a href="mailto:dave.ball2@virgin.net" target="_blank">dave.ball2@virgin.net</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [ELECTRON] Beginners Programming<br>
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Blair I don't care which language people want to learn, the group can<br>
cover them all as far as concerned as I've said before all the c<br>
languages are part of the same family tree.<br>
i was thinking for the first group to cover some main area's of<br>
programming.<br>
Such as variables, types, classes, functions, procedures, etc and perhaps<br>
look at the differences and similarities between the languages people<br>
want to learn.<br>
i think it would be good to have some actual problem to solve, someone<br>
mentioned yathzee which maybe a bit complicated for the first meeting but<br>
perhaps we can use it as a starting point.<br>
by that i mean we could look at identifying what would be need to write a<br>
yathzee type game perhaps starting out with a craps. although someone<br>
would need to have the rules for theses games<br>
as we would need to cover quite a few of the areas to create a simple<br>
dice game.<br>
regards<br>
dave<br>
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On 19 April 2013 10:24, Blair Thompson <<a href="mailto:mail@justblair.co.uk" target="_blank">mail@justblair.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Yep... Got me, I was sloppy with my language. A million apologies, I have<br>
> let everyone down.<br>
><br>
> I don't know the difference between the languages sufficiently to know<br>
> which is best. Probably best to go with C then if anything. But don't<br>
> choose on my requests. If PHP is more useful to people then go with that<br>
><br>
> Blair<br>
><br>
> Martin McGrath <<a href="mailto:mcgrath.martin@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcgrath.martin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> >On 18 April 2013 23:36, Blair Thompson <<a href="mailto:mail@justblair.co.uk" target="_blank">mail@justblair.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Depends on your choice of microprocessor. Arduino is where my<br>
> >experience<br>
> >> lies and it's c++ based as well as being about the most popular<br>
> >platform<br>
> >> for beginners.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Anything I have seen for the msp430 has been in c++ as well. Though I<br>
> >know<br>
> >> you can develop in c with it.<br>
> >><br>
> >> But I am no expert in these matters. The only pic stuff I ever did<br>
> >was in<br>
> >> a language called Jal that never really took off.<br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> >Ah Microprocessor vs Microcontroller.<br>
> ><br>
> >IIRC the Arduino core libs are written in C and C++, most of the<br>
> >application code I've seen is written in C.<br>
> ><br>
> >Plain old C has many advantages, less bloat, less runtime overheads etc<br>
> >which I'd have thought would have made it more appealing that C++ for<br>
> >the<br>
> >Arduino, given the fairly limited resources.<br>
> ><br>
> >Cheers<br>
> ><br>
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