<div dir="ltr">sorry c++ link missing <a href="http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~wjk/C++Intro/#S1">http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~wjk/C++Intro/#S1</a><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 April 2013 01:27, DAVID BALL <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave.ball2@virgin.net" target="_blank">dave.ball2@virgin.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>those interested in C++ this looks like a pretty good starting point.<br></div> for php <a href="http://coursesweb.net/php-mysql/variables-data-types" target="_blank">http://coursesweb.net/php-mysql/variables-data-types</a> looks like a good place to start<br>
<br><br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 April 2013 01:19, DAVID BALL <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave.ball2@virgin.net" target="_blank">dave.ball2@virgin.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>As i said i don't want this to descend into a discussion of which language is better than another. When i learned to program we never used any specific language but rather wrote pseudo code and studied the mathematics behind any algorithms. <br>
.<br></div> as I've said it about understanding the core principal that's why i think the language is irreverent. once you understand the core principals <br></div></div><div><div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 April 2013 01:04, Alice <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fleabite531@gmail.com" target="_blank">fleabite531@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
(My bias - I learned c first and never liked the "progression" to c++ as<br>
programming stopped being fun then)<br>
<br>
Start with c. Its a neat, complete (imho) and *fun* language that's quick<br>
to get going with and I think encourages good practice. Python I think is<br>
similar but just seems somehow best to have c as your foundation to build<br>
up from.<br>
<div><div>On Apr 19, 2013 12:07 AM, "DAVID BALL" <<a href="mailto:dave.ball2@virgin.net" target="_blank">dave.ball2@virgin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> does no one program machine language anymore? god that's the way i was<br>
> taught to program microprocessors guess i'm showing my age<br>
> ( and its how i got my self banned from john Menzies on sauchall street<br>
> as a kid<br>
> when i used machine code on there zx spectrum's. to switch of the<br>
> keyboard)<br>
> the last time i programmed in C++ was in modeling leaky integrate and fire<br>
> neurons as my final year project many moons ago.<br>
> but as i've said c, c++ and c# are all in the same family. as Delphi,<br>
> and Pascal are in the same family, Basic and visual basic etc...<br>
> each language has its uses and specialization. and if there is one<br>
> thing about programming and the options available it is that there are<br>
> many and each has its pros and cons. and i don't want this to descend<br>
> into an argument of the pros and cons of one over the other.<br>
> so so far i have someone wanting to learn c++<br>
> and someone suggesting PHP.<br>
> do we have any others?<br>
> what time would suit people to have the first meeting and if not Monday<br>
> what day would people prefer.<br>
><br>
> regards<br>
> dave<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 18 April 2013 23:36, Blair Thompson <<a href="mailto:mail@justblair.co.uk" target="_blank">mail@justblair.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Depends on your choice of microprocessor. Arduino is where my experience<br>
> > lies and it's c++ based as well as being about the most popular platform<br>
> > for beginners.<br>
> ><br>
> > Anything I have seen for the msp430 has been in c++ as well. Though I<br>
> know<br>
> > you can develop in c with it.<br>
> ><br>
> > But I am no expert in these matters. The only pic stuff I ever did was in<br>
> > a language called Jal that never really took off.<br>
> ><br>
> > Martin McGrath <<a href="mailto:mcgrath.martin@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcgrath.martin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > >On 18 April 2013 23:06, Blair Thompson <<a href="mailto:mail@justblair.co.uk" target="_blank">mail@justblair.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > >> How much difference is there from c# to c++? I would love to learn<br>
> > >more<br>
> > >> c++ as it is a popular language for microprocessor development as<br>
> > >well as<br>
> > >> software<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Blair<br>
> > >><br>
> > ><br>
> > >Do you have a reference for this? in my experience C wins every time<br>
> > >over<br>
> > >C++ when it comes to programming microprocessors.<br>
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